Origins and Meanings of the Eight-Point Star

By Sarah


khatim

The shape that most clearly represents Morocco in my mind’s eye is the eight-point star. It is a simple shape made by overlapping two squares. The hard-edged lines make it indicative of Moroccan patterns, which are known for their use of straight lines in contrast to the curvilinear arabesque of the Middle East. It has a feel that is both modern and ancient. What is the meaning behind this particular shape and what does it represent? (Note: this article was revised on March 24, 2008)

Universal Symbolism

In truth, the eight-point star is not unique to Morocco. It appears in cultures around the globe. It can be found on national flags and in religious iconography. It carries various meaning associated with each culture that utilizes it. Eight is an important number in terms of realizing balance, and although it isn’t always illustrated by a star, it appears in the eight-paths in the way of Buddah and eight immortals in Chinesse tradition. Its universal symbolism is one of balance, harmony, and cosmic order. Its pattern is associated early astronomy, religion, and mysticism. It is symbolic of both stars and humanity’s earliest attempts to understand and communicate the order and unity inherent in Creation, nature’s rule.

Astrological Origins

The roots of the eight-point star symbol are in early astronomy. The eight lines are symbolic of the four corners of space (north, south, east, and west) and time (two solstices and two equinoxes). 1

four corners of space and timeAbove diagram taken from Resonateview.org

Use in Islam

By the middle-ages, the eight-point star is widely used as a symbol in Islamic art. It is called khatim or khatim sulayman, seal of the prophets, as in signet ring.see #1 The phrase “seal of the prophets” is also used in the Koran and has particular ideological meaning for Muslims. Moroccan zillij artisans also refer to the eight-point star as sibniyyah, sabniyyah, which is a derivative of the number seven sab’ah.

The design of the Muslim khatam was likely inspired by Jewish version, which is the Seal of Solomon. The seal of Solomon is a six point star formed by overlapping two triangles. According to the brilliant book, Beginners Guide to Constructing the Universe” Muslim legend recounts Solomon using the star to capture djinns, genies, the immaterial counterparts to humans.3

Ancient use of Eight-point Star Symbol

The eight-point star was used as a symbol long before the rise of Islam.

An Italian nobleman named Pietro della Valle discovered the use of an eight-point star as a seal in the ruins of the ancient city of Ur (~2000BC), Tell al Muqayyar, in the mid-seventeenth century. He wrote “I found on the ground some pieces of black Marble…which seem to be a kind of Seal like what the Orientals use at this day: for their Seals are only letters or written words…Amongst the other letters I discovered in a short time was…a star of eight points…” 2

Abraham, the shared prophet of the monotheistic religions (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam) lived in the Sumerian city of Ur. Excavations from Ur reveal early use of the eight point star, often in the form of an eight petal rosette used in jewelry or metalwork decoratation. see #2

Rosettes excavated from Ur

The Sumerians used an arrangement of lines as a symbol for both star and God. The linear eight-point star represented the goddess Inanna, Sumerian queen of the heavens and Ishtar (Astarte), the Babylonian goddess known as “The Lightbringer.” An eight-point star enclosed within a circle was the symbol for the sun god. The “Babylonian star-cult is the core and the archetype of subsequent astrology.” 3

For centuries, the Greeks believed that the morning and evening star we different entities. The Greeks recognized Venus as the morning and evening star is 400 BC, 1,500 years after Sumerians.4

Religous Integration of Symbol

How does the pagan symbol for God/star transform itself into an Islamic symbol? What could the connection be between the Islamic use of the eight-point star and its uses as a symbol in Sumerian culture?

I mention the Sumerian history to show the earliest origins of the eight-point star as a reflection of astronomical observations from one of the world’s oldest civilizations. Sumer is located in an era of the world where several civilizations, such as Babylonian, Arkadian (Semetic), Elam (proto Indo-Iranian), Egyptian, and Greek expanded and retracted. It doesn’t require much imagination to imagine how these symbol migrated to other cultures and eventually made its way into Islam. Why the eight point symbol endured instead of a six point star or some other shape is the real story, I suppose.

Additionally, all the monotheistic religions accommodate astrology in some way through fact that the stars are part of the Creation. Islam inherited pagan symbols along the same lines as other monotheistic religions, which share the same history and origins. see #3 Muslims accommodated ancient symbols inasmuch as they supported the Islamic view of Creation.

Moreover, astronomy plays an important role in Islam in both its expansion, obligations (pilgrimage), and daily act of worship (five times of daily prayer done directed towards Mecca). Astrology had an impact on Muslim scholars as well. As inheritors of ancient texts and avid supporters of scholarly study, Islamic scholars poured over Greek learning, which included meanings attached to the movement and position of the stars. Pythagoras, who is credited as being the first person to call himself a philosopher (lover of wisdom), is of particular important to Muslim scholars. Pythagoras developed a system of belief that centered around mathematics. Pythagoras identified the planets as being spheres rotating around a central fire. Pythagoras also influenced Plato and Aristotle and the philosophies that followed.

The following picture, taken from www.discoverislamicart.org is of an astrolobe in the Batha Museum in Fez. “This astrolabe includes all of the component parts of the planispheric astrolabes that were indispensable to ancient astronomers for determining prayer times and the height of the stars, and for establishing horoscopes. It is one of the first portable astrolabes in the West.”

astrolobe

Use in Ornamentaion and Pattern Building

Further symbolism of the eight-point star can be discovered by examining its role in Islamic ornamentation and pattern building. The khatam is at the heart of many Islamic ornamental patterns.

Ornamentation is particularly important in Islam. Islam discourages representational art in an effort to avoid the temptation of idol worship that arises with created mimics of Creation. Therefore, Islamic art grew from the study of geometry and the practice of ornamental decoration, as well as the sciences, literature, and development of architecture. The idea in Islamic faith is to seek to understand Creation, not to worship it, but to honor the Creator through the application of understanding. “Praise God the creator who has bestowed upon Man the power to discover the significance of numbers” the Prophet Mohammad is quoted as saying. see #1

Furthermore, the mental disciplined, study, and restraint required for constructing complex, precise, geometric patterns support the Islamic belief that humans are the greatest of God’s creation.

The following photo shows detail of a zillij pattern used to decorate a wall in the media of Fes. The pattern contains multiple uses of the eight-point star, both as a center point and an encompassing shape of the pattern.

zillij wall in Fes

More complex patterns can be developed using the khatam or its variant as a centerpiece. The following diagram shows how a pattern that employs a symmetry of eight is built around a central khatam using a grid of four circles around a central circle.
Diagram of pattern construction

The following picture shows a fountain in Fes that is decorated with various patterns based around a central khatam that radiates outwards into various star formations.

fountain in fes

Mytical Signifigance

The Sufi mystic Ibn al-Arabi drew a diagram similar to the one used to develop a pattern around a khatam (see above). However, Al-Arabi’s diagram’s diagram is concerned with spirituality, not ornamentation. He drew it as part of his explanation that “all phenomena are nothing but manifestations of Being, which is one with God.” 6 Conincidentally, Al-Arabi was born in Spain at around the same time the practice of zillij, mosaic design, was starting to flourish. As Sufism had particular appeal to North Africa, his spirtual use of the pattern may explain the prolific use of the eight-point star and and symetries of eight in Moroccan Islamic patterns.

Ibn al-Arbi diagram

The number eight was important among Sufi mystics. “The octagon, with a ninth point in the center, is also central to the mystical symbology of Sufism. It is the seal or design which Ernest Scott says ‘reaches for the innermost secrets of man’. Meaning wholeness, power and perfection, this primary geometrical symbol is one which Sufis associate with Shambhala …” 7

On his website of natural patterns, Ian Alexander refers to the eight-point star as both the Sufi star and the Moroccan star. He offers the following explanation, as quoted from Friday mosque in Iran “Form is symbolised by the square. Expansion is symbolised by the square with triangles pointing outwards (an 8-pointed star). Contraction is symbolised by the square with triangles pointing inwards (a 4-pointed star). The two star-shapes together symbolise the cycle of creation, ‘the breath of the compassionate.’”

Breath of the Compassionate

The following pattern is created by repeating the khatam. The cross-like four-point star mentioned above appears in the negative space. This pattern is called the Breath of the Compassionate. Of the ninety-nine knowable names of God in Islamic tradition, the Compassionate is the highest pronounceable name. “Through the polar cycle of the divine breath the universe is periodically created, maintained, dissolved, and renewed…More than just an ornamental motif, the Breath of the Compassionate is a cosmological model symbolizing the interplay of polarities that manifest form.” See #4 Given the Muslim belief in both humans and jinns and the squares association with material worlds, it is no wonder that the Breath of the Compassionate and the Seal of the Prophet in the Muslim context would also represent a balancing act between the two.

For more information on Islamic art in the Sufi tradition, I highly recommend reading Sufi: Expressions of the Mystic Quest (Art and Imagination) by Laleh Bakhtiar. The book provides several insights into spirituality and Islamic artisanal traditions that I hope to write about in the future. Also, I wrote an article on another blog about Sufism that may be of interest.

Keith Critchlow has extensively studied Islamic patterns and states the four-fold archetype “has a deep and profound relationship to the Moroccan genius, particularly as it relates to the crossroads of Africa and the migration of symbols from the south. Critchlow describes the Moroccan patterns language similar to late King Hassan II’s often quoted description of Morocco: “…drawn from the depths of Africa but transmuted in the light of Islam, memorized and learnt by heart and transmitted from generation to generation for the love of beauty.” see #1

Conclusion

The eight-point star as a symbol marks early human understanding of the intellegent order that underlies our universe. Today, it carries religous and mystical associations. Known as the khatam in Islamic cultures, it and its variants are found at the center of stunning zillij masterpieces throughout Morocco. Amidst the color and compostion, the khatam stands as a symbol of early astronomy, interconnectedness, and faith in the ultimate harmony of Creation. In this way, the khatam represents the highest virtues in Moroccan culture: learning, community, faith, and love of beauty.

detail of star pattern

Sources:

  1. Zillij: The Art of Moroccan Ceramics
  2. Treasures from the Royal Tombs of Ur
  3. Beginners Guide to Constructing the Universe
  4. Islamic Patterns: An Analytical and Cosmological Approach
  5. Astrology: Between Religion and the Empirical
  6. symbols.com
  7. The World of Islam: Faith, People, Culture
  8. Shambala as quoted on the Web at www.songsouponsea.com/Promenade/Monte.html

Do you know more about the eight-pointed star? Please leave a comment.

96 Responses to “Origins and Meanings of the Eight-Point Star”

  1. wdmll Says:

    The nine pointed star within the circle and all its parts, have political ramifications that affect the world.

  2. alfonso el sabio Says:

    I may be mistaken, but I think the Al-Arabi illustration is upside down … the Arabic script doesn’t look quite right … please review it.

  3. Ereli Says:

    cool site.
    Please note that the Ibn al-Arabi diagram is upside down.

  4. MoroccanDesign.com Says:

    I corrected the al-Arabi diagram. Thanks for the note!

  5. Aly Says:

    This is very informative but it fails to mention the significance of the eight pointed star having meaning for Islam in the same way the six pointed star does for Judaism and the four pointed star (commonly seen as a cross) has for Christianity. Additionally, the use of these sorts of patterns has more to do with it being forbidden to depict Allah or Mohammad and less to do with it infiltrating culture from Sumerian roots.
    I do like your explanation of it as a mathematical “throwback” but specifically all Zelige (Zellij, Zillige depending on your location) is based on Pythagoras mathematics and Pythagorian grids. The geometry of Zelige and the repetition of pattern is said to allow a person’s brain to wander, and thusly loosening the mind allow that person to better converse with Islam and Allah.This is why it is in many homes and public spaces throughout Morocco.
    Why the eight-pointed star has any existence in Moroccan Zelige is simply because it is formed of two squares placed on top of one another- a simple patter that can lend itself to a breadth of interpretation, invention and repetition.

  6. Sarah Tricha Says:

    I agree with what you have said. I did have a note in the original text about the Seal of Solomon, which is also called Seal of the Prophets. It is formed by overlaying two triangles instead of two squares and is the usual form it takes in Judaism.

    I have started to study Pythagoras. I have collected a lot of online resources on that subject and some subject I perceive may be connected. So far it is only a list of resources and is on my website at http://moroccandesign.com/resources-pythagoras under the title “Resources: Roots Moroccan of Geometric Art.” Pythagoras is an interesting character in history and had a lot of ideas that weren’t documented, so it is hard to say exactly what his influences are and whether or not they contained elements imported from Babylon. I suspect they did, but that is a path I only beginning to trace.

    As for the eight point star being used as a matter of practicality, I am sure it is. But, as most useful symbols, it has been given a mystical meaning. The mystical meaning certainly isn’t the only meaning of a shape. Shapes are really beyond the realm of language and other forms of definition. But, I don’t think the zillij designs are born from mere practicality. It is an incredibly impractical art form that requires input from lots of artistic traditions and a lot of upkeep by a lot of anonymous artisans. And, it is an oral tradition. The vocabulary associated with the designs and shapes is very misleading. The book “Zillij: The Art of Moroccan Ceramics” has a catalog of shapes and names used. The author’s don’t translate all the names because they perceive them as, essentially, meaningless.

    So, in the end, again, I agree with you. The true point of zillij is to inspire meditation, not explain it. But, appreciating it and preserve it requires a bit of language.

    Thanks for reading and thanks for taking the time write thoughtful comments.

  7. oliver Says:

    what about its use in uae or other countries beyond morocco?

  8. MoroccanDesign.com Says:

    The eight-point star is an Islamic symbol known as the seal of the prophet (khatam). See comments five and six for more info. Thanks for writing.

  9. Daniel Says:

    To continue the thought from comment 7, I have been wondering about the meaning of the eight pointed star ever since I came back from Turkmenistan. I’ve never been to Morroco (yet, please invite me :)), but in the city of Konye-urgench is a mausoleum and it’s wooden window shutters are basically bristling with it.

    Somebody told me that the national symbol of Turkmenistan with the eight pointed star and the horse and the wheat was the symbol of the legendary father of all Turkmen. I can’t be sure how many of it is true and how many I’m just associating right now, but definitely it is a common used symbol in Islam, faith and maybe even national moral.

    I like the Morrocan mosaic I see here on the picture at the top. In Turkmenistan I saw generally a bit more of the red colours.

  10. zeevveez Says:

    The eight-pointed star is called octagram.
    In Japanese Art of Warfare it represents a fortress.
    In Britain there are thousands of Roman mosaics with this symbol.
    I reckon you touched only the tip of the iseberg- in order to really KNOW what this octagram means you’ll have to collect many more examples before you get to any conclusion (as I did on my website which has a lot of examples – but still not enough)…

  11. Mohd Sahloul Says:

    Wow so valuable intos…the reason behind being here, that I already bought an eight-point-star neklace and iam so into it, but i dunno the exact meaning of it, but there was a brief explanation in my neklace cover that says: its friendship star and blaa blaa blaa ah i dont recall!! lol…anyway Is it correlated between friendship and an eight-point-star?! sounds silly!!…Now after reading all this, I have good reason to wear my neklace :), thx ppl

  12. Tom van Bakel Says:

    In the first place we must know what the octagram means in the Islamic world: in sura Al-Mominoen it is written that Allah created man in seven stages:

    [23.12] And certainly We created man of an extract of clay,
    [23.13] Then We made him a small seed in a firm resting-place,
    [23.14] Then We made the seed a clot,
    then We made the clot a lump of flesh,
    then We made (in) the lump of flesh bones,
    then We clothed the bones with flesh, then
    We caused it to grow into another creation,
    so blessed be Allah, the best of the creators.
    [23.15] Then after that you will most surely die.
    [23.16] Then surely on the day of resurrection you shall be raised.

    Because of the verse: “so blessed be Allah, the best of the creators”, you may conclude that worshipping Allah is the eighth stage. As men were created to worship Allah: “I (Allah) have created the jinns and men, that they only may worship Me.” (51.56) the eighth stage symbolises the fulfilment of mankind on earth.

    Usually the triangle represented number three, the square represented number four and the cross represented number five: you must add the point in the middle with the four other points. The four-pointed star may have symbolised the Five Pillars of Islam or the Salah the ritual prayer which must be performed five times a day. So to the Islamic world both the octagram and the four-pointed star may have symbolised religious live of mankind on earth.

    In Sumer the eight-point star may have had a different meanings.
    You wrote: “The eight lines are symbolic of the four corners of space (north, south, east, and west) and time (two solstices and two equinoxes).” and “An eight-point star enclosed within a circle was the symbol for the sun god.” As the eight-point star represented the main positions of the sun during the whole year it may have represented the whole year as well.
    In Sumer the goddess Inanna not only was symbolised by the linear eight-point star but also by the twelve-pointed star, which of course represented the Zodiac. Symbolising the Zodiac it may have represented the whole year too. So the twelve-point star and the eight-point star symbolised the goddess of the sky and they both may have represented the whole year too.

  13. MoroccanDesign.com Says:

    Thank you for your sharing your insights (refering to comment #12), particularly about the cross representing the number 5. Very interesting.

  14. beatdown Says:

    The Ibn al-Arabi art is still upside down. Either that, or it was right side up and the people who suggested that you flip it were wrong.

    In particular, in the top-left corner of the image, there is a bold word that possesses a “qaaf” — the Arabic “Q” — it’s a loop with a low-slinging tail with two dots atop it. It is very obviously upside down; the tail should be swinging toward the bottom of the page, but it is directed towards the top and the dots are below the letter in your image, as well.

  15. Dr. Alonzo Gaskill Says:

    In your article on the eight-pointed star you state: “In truth, the eight-point star is not unique to Morocco. It appears in cultures around the globe. It can be found on national flags and in religious iconography. It carries various meaning associated with each culture that utilizes it. The are eight-paths in the way of Buddah and eight immortals in Chinesse tradition.” I’m intreagued by this interpretation and am currently working on some research associated with the use of the eight-pointed star in Mormonism. Would you happen to know of a reference for the eight-pointed star in Buddhism?

    Thanks in advance for your help.

    Alonzo

  16. MoroccanDesign.com Says:

    I don’t know of a reference to the star in Buddhism, but rather to the importance of the number eight as in the eight-fold path. http://www.thebigview.com/buddhism/eightfoldpath.htm. The Buddhist symbol is an eight-spoked wheel, not a star. http://www.thebigview.com/buddhism/mudra.html

    In Chinese culture, the eight immortals are associated with prosperity and longevity and appear in paintings and literature in Chinesse and Taoist art. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight_Immortals

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  18. michael riggs Says:

    the 6 pointed star “of David” can be seen as the alchemical symbol for fire (an equilateral triangle with an apex at the top) overlaid with the symbol for water (identical triangle, but apex pointing down).

  19. Eldad Says:

    I am currently preparing a walking tour of old Jerusalem revolving around codes and symbols, and have found this article to be of great help.
    Mind you, the Dome of the Rock, which is the most notable structure in the city and an eminent Islamic shrine, is an octagonal building, and therefore its’ floorplan would have the eight-point star. But rather than having to do with Islamic symbolism, this probably has to do with the almosr certain assumption that the building was supposed to be a Byzantine church was not completed by the time Islam took over the Holy Land, completing the unfinished structure and giving it a Muslim meaning.

  20. MoroccanDesign.com Says:

    Eldad – thank you for the insightful comment. The octogan clearly has more meaning than Islam can describe alone. I do think, in the end, this shape has a particular meaning to humans because of its astrological origins, as noted in digram near the top of this article. Charting the seasons, planning crops, navigating, and other actions associated with ealry astronomy certainly must have given a sense of order to the world and made “eight” a powerful number.

  21. frederick Says:

    i am looking for the meaning of the twelve pointed star, anybody know some history or a link to historical meaning of this?
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  22. MoroccanDesign.com Says:

    I haven’t researched the 12-point star specifically, but immediately think of the zodiac. I googled it and found an article that related it to the 12 tribes of Israel and the 12 apostles. http://www.religionfacts.com/christianity/symbols/12-point-star.htm

    But, I still wonder why 12 – as a number – seems important. So, I researched Pythagoras’ thoughts on the topic and discovered he found 12 to be the most divisible small number and “he therefore summized that twelve (12) was the most ideal musical number; thousands of years of musical composition can attest to the notion that he was mostly right.” http://www.davesabine.com/Music/Articles/PythagorasMathematicalTheoruminMusic/tabid/169/Default.aspx

    Sometimes I think of the eight-point star as two squares overlapping – each square representing a world, the one we see (human) and the one we don’t (jinns). Perhaps the 12-point star adds another layer and represents something heavenly in the mix of experience.

  23. Julie Says:

    I am curious what the eight pointed star within a circle that has a sun and moon within the star mean. Please email me at jrichards_24@live.com if you know what this symbol means. Thank you.

  24. Melanie Says:

    The eight pointed star is also important to some native american tribes, having also found archeological evidence of this in Nova Scotia. The “First Nations” uses it, as well as the Lakota Native American Tribe. Do a google on “Lakota Star Blanket” to see examples of it in their sewn quilts. But I believe First Nations used it prior to Columbus’ arrival.

  25. Sitesa Says:

    If one is buried in an octagon shaped tomb particularly with the stone covering it is octagon in shape. What would this say to you?

  26. CuriousAli Says:

    An eight-pointed star can mean anything you want.

    In ancient e.g. nelolithic times, it represented the star venus, from memory this is the same in islam, and where the colour green originates.

    Venus was also inanna and other middle eastern goddess representations.

    Originally the hebrews, just alike surrounding states practised astral theology, they adopted the babylonian calendar. Even Tammuz, Inanna’s dead lover was worshipped at the temple in jerusalem by Israelite women, since Ezekial denunces this practise.

    A wall painting at a site to the east of the river Jordan , and which dates from the Chacolithic period, around 4500 to 3500 bce, displays an eight-pointed star 1.84m in diameter.

    In later hebrew religion venus/ashtoreth becomes lucifer the light bearer.

    It is an irony that the hebrews used divination of the stars to decide on the Bar-Kochba revolt of 134ce, during a triple conjunction of jupiter/saturn, e.g. Bar-Kochba means ‘son of the star’

    In Pythagorean mystical thinking the numbers 3, 7, 12, 30, 72 etc have the same meaning as they do in all the middle east cultures. They refer to the sumerian/babylonian zodiac and their representation of the constellations. So you have 12 tribes of Israel, the oasis at elim contained 12 springs and 70 palm trees, the seven lamps of the menorah represent the seven planets, the twelve loaves on the table the zodiac. The hebrew tent of worship was always aligend to face the rising sun.

    Other middle east cultures e.g. egypt, assyria, etc had similar conventions, the major difference was that their gods never claimed , to the exclusion of all other gods, that yahweh uniquely created the world.

    Summarising star symbols generally represent stars in the sky which become male and female deities, the mystical numbers refer to the divisions of the zodiac, or lunar/solar periods.

    Thank the sumerians and babylonians for all this fine science.

    p.s Pythagarous was meant to have travelled, via trade routes, silk road etc, to egypt or further some say india for his idea of the soul travelling back to the stars and reincarnation.

  27. berty101 Says:

    In response to melanie,

    I would be willing to bet that the native americans came to use the eight pointed star after the early vikings had landed in the area. Many groups from the north countries of Europe have been known to utilize the eight pointed star and it would make sense that this tradition bled into the Native American culture once the viking groups left items with the symbols on it. The symbols for my family include the eight pointed star and these symbols date back long before Columbus’s day as well.

  28. MoroccanDesign.com Says:

    I am just making a note about the symbolism of eight in the chess board. Maybe something I’ll write more about later.

    “the chess-board…expresses the unfolding of space according to the quaternary and octonary of the principal directions (4 x 4 x 4 = 8 x 8)”

    http://www.studiesincomparativereligion.com/Public/articles/browse.aspx?ID=93

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  31. Naser Says:

    Please note that the Ibn al-Arabi diagram is upside down.

  32. Litiana Says:

    All this information is interesting. I came upon this due to a dream I had recently which bothered me greatly. In my dream, I saw 4 lions coming towards me, followed by 4 eagles behind the lions. It was a happy reunion…..but I felt strongly that the dream was a message. 4 lions + 4 eagles = 8. Therefore started researching number 4 and number 8 – it’s significance. Also the significance of lions and eagles….It was an extremely vivid dream, I felt I was there literally. If anyone wants to take a crack at my dream, that would be great :-)

  33. MoroccanDesign.com Says:

    That does sound like a powerful dream. I have summarized the meanings of eight here. I don’t know the animal symbolism. But, here’s my impression:

    I see eight, and the eight point star constructed of two squares, as two worlds overlapping. It is like a convergence of two grids at slightly different angles. The idea of lions – “ruler” of land – and eagles – “rulers” of sky – is a uniting of opposing worlds, on? Coming from 4-corners and all that.

    Opposing worlds isn’t even the right word. These worlds exist together, but the animals that inhabit each conform to different physical realities, no? Flying versus running. Different view/function. But something shared.

    You said it was a happy reunion. That feeling is an important part of the dream. If you reflect on the symbolism, and recall the feeling you had in the dream, I think you will gain full benefit of the insight it has to offer, even if you only do so on a intuitive, unconscious level.

  34. Litiana Says:

    From my understanding 4 in itself represents:

    * 4 corners of the earth
    * 4 seasons
    * 4 elements
    * 4 directions
    * Number of time and space
    * It denotes solid matter and Earth in Particular
    * Represents Creation and material Completeness as Trinity is 1,2,3 and 4 is Creation – those who believe in the Trinity.
    * 4 letter of the Creator.
    * 4 also represents grounded, stability, rooted, planted, solidity, centered, etc.

    The Lions were the first four that approached me and behind followed 4 eagles (bald eagles came into mind for some reason).

    Symbolism of number 8:

    Number of the perfection, the infinity. In mathematics the symbol of the infinity is represented by a 8 laid down.
    *

    Symbol of the cosmic Christ.
    *

    Number figuring the immutable eternity or the self-destruction. It represents also the final point of the manifestation.
    *

    In China, the 8 expresses the totality of the universe.
    *

    Number of the balance and of the cosmic order, according to the Egyptians.
    *

    Number expressing the matter, it is also the symbol of the incarnation in the matter which becomes itself creative and autonomous, governing its own laws.
    *

    The number eight corresponds to the New Testament, according to Ambroise.
    *

    It is the symbol of the new Life, the final Resurrection and the anticipated Resurrection that is the baptism.
    *

    According to Clement of Alexandria, the Christ places under the sign of 8 the one he made to be born again.
    *

    Represent the totality and the coherence of the creation in evolution. In China, it expresses the totality of the universe.
    *

    Represent the earth, not in its surface but in its volume, since 8 is the first cubic number.
    *

    The Pythagoreans have made the number 8 the symbol of the love and the friendship, the prudence and the thinking and they have called it the Great “Tetrachtys”.
    *

    In Babylon, in Egypt and in Arabia, it was the number of the duplication devoted to the sun, from where the solar disc is decorated of a cross with eight arms.
    *

    The number 8 means the multiplicity, for the Japanese.
    *

    A favorable number, associated to the prosperity.
    *

    It is the number of the restful day, after the 7th day of the creation.

    I found it interesting that some symbolism of 4 & 8 are similar – such as CREATION, EARTH, MATTER…etc

    Lion & Eagle Representation:

    *Lion – King of the Jungle & Eagle – King of the Air
    *Both LEADERS – one of the animal and the other of the Birds – ground & air as you mentioned.
    *Both considered noble, powerful, strong, royal,etc
    *Both are associated with the Sun

    Yes in my dream it was like a Happy Reunion as if I know them. The lions saw me first and started running towards me and I happened to be petting & shaking one of the lions head – Mutual feelings of happiness, bliss,etc….My focus was on the lions as they got to me but I knew that the eagles were right behind them – that’s when I lost my dream – it became blank and I didn’t want it to be blank but it was….kept trying to go back there as it was a beautiful experience.

    The problem now is figuring out what is the whole interpretation having to do with me. I knew it was a message when it started, when I was dreaming it, and when I woke up! Wished I saw more but the lion did say something to me telepathically that I can’t recall for the life of me as I was shaking and playing with it.

  35. Litiana Says:

    Hello?!!! What happened to the flow of the discussion?

  36. MoroccanDesign.com Says:

    I’m reading Carl Jung “Man and His Symbols” right now. To quote “In the art of India and the Far East the four- or eight-rayed circle is the usual pattern of the religious images that serve as instruments of mediation…as a rule, these mandalas represent the cosmos in its relation to divine powers.”

  37. Maryland Says:

    Awesome! The 8-pt stars association with the devine should not be taken lightly or metaphorically. I reached what Bhuddists call Nirvana, what Christians would call an encounter with the Holy Spirit, and what Hindus call the meeting of Shiva and Shakti in the crown chakra in the trance of Samadhi(ecstasy in which the ego is annihilated and duality is trancended) throught an 8-pt star mandala quilt on my wall. I wasn’t even meditating. I had watched some “science and spirit” dvd, had a few beers and smokes and then I was getting real boosted watching some reggae concert dvd durring a HUGE lightning storm and somehow I think my pineal gland got activated or something and I escaped this normal realm and had the ultimate pleasure of experiencing some HOLY.. I don’t know how to describe what. It was the most powerfull experience I have ever had.. I was buzzed for days! Someone told me that what I had experienced was my “light body” or higher self.. all I know is that I bowed to the floor in amazement and gratitude and did not get up for a long time. Since this happened in July I have left my career and dedicated much of my life to researching what happened to me in attempt to understand/spread this knowledge/experience. I’ll let ya know when my book/youtube vid is finished. There is def something to this 2012 stuff!

    Drunvalo Melchezidek’s diagram of “Christ Consciousness” p.13 of “The Ancient Secret of the Flower of Life”
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/6423826/Drunvalo-Melchizedek-Ancient-Secret-of-the-Flower-of-Life-Vol2

    it matches my quilt exactly.. can I post/email you a pic of the quilt geometry?

    Also. Im feeling you on the whole ancient language we have forgotten. When Joe Rogan talks about dmt trips he says you enter this higher realm that is made of geometry and light.. we gotta get back to the garden! Check this dude out:

    http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=88EDD1895A2F5587&search_query=nassim+45

    left brain approach:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s42mrdhKwRA

    Love + Light happy holidays

  38. Michael Garfield Says:

    I recently linked to your lovely article on my live art blog (michaelgarfield.blogspot.com) – I paint at concerts and this pattern, The Breath of the Compassionate, has been coming up over and over for me in the last six months since reading the chapter on 8 in Michael Schneider’s Beginner’s Guide To Constructing The Universe.

    The more I learn about the significance of 8, the more I am called to it – not to ignore the other numbers, but there is something extraordinarily potent in this symbol of eternal regeneration, and its ties to lunar cycles, and Christ, and volume…

    I encourage anyone interested to go have a look at my work, which is dedicated to the exploration of the significance of form and the inspiration of fellow seekers (/FINDERS). And thank you, Sarah, because I found this article just to give people a point of reference and ended up learning quite a bit from the body and comments…

  39. Theophobia Randomfactor Says:

    You should examine the orbit of Venus in relation to the Sun and Earth.
    Stick the Earth in the middle of a pentagram earth:venus:sun have the golden ratio in their orbit ratios as a hint), on each point of the pentagram imagine the sun there. Draw a circle around each sun, stopping at the point where the pentagram triangle hits the base. Pop a regular octagram in each circle and you have a pretty accurate orbital map of venus in relation to the earth over the course of eight years. Not even sure I’m following this, its easier to show a diagram but I’m tired…

  40. Dr. R. James Says:

    The eight-pointed star is quite simply the representation of the fallen angels that rule this world, under Lucifer. He has many names. In Sumeria, he was called “Anu” the sky God. In Sumeria, these fallen angels, which make up the committee of 300, were called An-nu-Naki (Those who came from the heavens(or sky). These fallen angels are in rebellion against the Creator and the spiritual hierarchy. They have created all of the world´s religions, where they claim to be our “Gods”, but they are deceivers and keep us enslaved in this lifetime AND keep us re-incarnating into servitude in this Earth realm. That´s why the eight-pointed star is found in every religion around the world, because all of those “prophets” were working for(or directly related to) our tyranical spiritual overlords.
    In case you want to know how I know these things, it comes from a lifetime of research and study. I´m now almost 50. Anybody want to know more? email me: r_james2012@yahoo.com

  41. IwishiwasDrRJames Says:

    Eight sided stars are signs of good or bad luck in which areas?

  42. IwishiwasDrRJames Says:

    any answers or question? email me at ericanderson@tampabayrr.com

  43. MoroccanDesign.com Says:

    I don’t think it has anything to do with luck. Rather, its an expression of an underlying grid – the order of things we see (and don’t)

  44. pipesmoker Says:

    I don’t know about any of what all of you say about it. But I do know that it is a power symbol and can be used in magic. Mystical, religious, or magical it is still a power symbol and it’s meaning is not so easy to understand. What it really represents was probably only known to the ancient people who first used it.

  45. pipesmoker Says:

    But thinking more about that it probably represents the sun. Because to the ancients what was more powerful than the sun?

  46. M.Akbar Says:

    amature like me takes a lot of time to understand this thing….

  47. Marcos Says:

    The cross(four pointed star), the shield of David (six pointed star), the seal of Solomon (eight pointed star), are all even numbers(earth numbers), the ‘crux’ of the question is the central point; that adds one to all these stars, and the number gets odd (the heavenly numbers), this is detailed in chinese numerology and in Pitagorean as well.
    The Eight represents in gnosticism, and other esoteric traditions the transcendence of the tyrannical rule of the planets(or lesser gods), that only go up to the seventh sphere(saturn), and is the sphere of the stars.

  48. Litiana Says:

    Reply 40 & 47 – Marco and Dr James – how fascinating! I have also come to the same understanding however different study method of what you two are saying…

    Would love to get to talk to both of you and discuss further….

  49. Brian of Brandon Says:

    Latiana, I wrote the Dr. in April and apparently “the Dr was not in the house” because he didn’t reply. I explained to him that I had been “consumed” by this symbol for several months, it had started soon after I found I was not alone in the 11:11 Coincidence (Time Prompt Phenomenon), and I was trying to find out why. I am confident the Dr was referring to Ancient Summarian Mythology which holds some controversy. Specifically, a man by the name of Zecharia Sitchin who believes some of the text translate into saying the winged beings from Summaria were “The Fallen” and a carving from 7,000 B.C. that contained one to many plantets and represents an alien passing a plow, and agricultural wisdom, to humanity. If you have not seen it already, check out the New York Times article written about him in January of this year for a place to start. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/10/nyregion/10alone.html You’ll find more comprehensive information on Wikipedia. As for my views, I think there is definately something to be discovered about the Seal of the Prophets. Interestingly, I found out just today that Mohammed is referred to as the “Seal of the Prophets” because he was considered to be the last. As one last note, the Dr’s email contained 2012 in it. This may be a good indicator he’s looking into the same symbol being in “The Unconfirmed Lost Book of Nostrodamus” which this history channel ran a special on due to it’s link to the end of the Mayan Calendar.

  50. MoroccanDesign.com Says:

    I do think the historical quest is interesting. I did a lot of research to write this article. Ultimately I experienced a mystical journey of my own. And all the answers about what we are and what power is are within us is there – in the soul. The aliens may or may not be. 2012 may or may not be. But we are now. I don’t know if we will ever be able to prove it, but all time is happening at once.

    Brian of Brandon – the number symbolism you are seeing…I had and continue to have tons of experiences like that and more. I don’t let it freak me out any longer. Because the truth is that we talk to the Universe and the Universe talks back. We are One. Are there dark overlords? Maybe, but you won’t find the light by chasing them.

    I seriously sound like a crazy hippy. That’s OK. If you want to read more about my personal experiences, I started another blog called lovehateflow.com when I started my awakening. These days, I feel like a crab without a shell. But, I am so grateful and a bit sad that people don’t understand how very powerful and cared for they are. Not by aliens, but by God.

    Be the light.

  51. Brian of Brandon Says:

    MoroccanDesign – You’re right that you sound like a crazy hippy. Unfortunately, as a 36 year old business professional I would consider myself about as well grounded as they get and, yet, I’ve considered over the last year I might be crazy myself. The truth is that my journey has led me to think exactly as you do. I’ve also realized that nearly every person thinks this way but doesn’t necessarily think deeply enough to realize it the way some of us do. Although I’ve never practiced a particular faith, I’ve realized that every time someone prays to God and asks for something, they ask for God to interact with them, the people around them, and the Universe in general. By asking, they are admitting believing that something is listening.

  52. MoroccanDesign.com Says:

    Amen, friend! I couldn’t agree with you more!

  53. MoroccanDesign.com Says:

    By the way Brian of Brandon, I’m a professionl myself and will be turning 36 next month. I am just completing a year of doubting my own sanity; seems to be part of the path. Cheers to you for making it through yours! I think its an odd syncronicity that the rough outlines of your story match the same as my own. Just further proof we are not alone or crazy. Staying grounded is important.

  54. Brian of Brandon Says:

    The eight-point star and “odd synchronicity”. That young lady is what this is all about. It’s why I was on your page. Remember I told you about the “11:11 Coincidence”. What is “odd synchronicity” but “odd coincidence”?

    What is “Coincidence” though? By definition it is 1.) a chance occurrence of events remarkable either for being simultaneous or for apparently being connected 2.) the fact, condition, or state of coinciding. What the definition points out is that Coincidence is “fact”. Either something is or is not a coincidence. What it does not point out is that we, as individuals, make the determination of what we believe is or is not Coincidence. In most cases we attempt to make this determination based on as many “facts” as possible in order to see the “connections” and make a “factual” determination. What it also does not clearly point out is that it requires two or more “events” to determine if coincidence exists. Thousands or even millions of events make up what we define as “Chaos”. To draw links within Chaos is to bring about Ordo Ab Chao (Order Out Of Chaos), the creed of the Freemasons.

    As you know, the eight point star is found across many religions. Is it coincidence then that “Masonry does not specify any God of any creed; she requires merely that you believe in some Deity, give him what name you will … any god will do …” Albert Pike, former Supreme Pontiff of Universal Freemasonry, likewise exults: “Masonry [is that religion] around whose altars the Christian, the Hebrew, the Moslem, the Brahman [Hindu], the followers of Confucius and Zoroaster, can assemble as brethren and unite in prayer…”

    Furthermore, is it coincidence that I see 11:11?

    Is it coincidence that as many as a million other people from all walks of life have been estimated to see the same thing?

    Is it coincidence that out of 708 possible times in the day, 11:11 UTM marks the end of the Mayan Calendar?

    Is it coincidence that the symbol that has consumed me for so long is the primary symbol found in the picture within the Unconfirmed Lost Book of Nostradamus that is used to support theories of the end of the Mayan Calendar?

    Is it coincidence that just outside Nostradamus’ back door is the Eglise St. Michel-de-Apocaylpse (St. Michael of the Apocalypse) and on its arched tympanum we find St. Michel posing as Ophiucus, the serpent holding esoteric 13th sign of the zodiac marking the center of the galaxy, the place of the alignment at the end of the Mayan Calendar?

    Better even yet I would wonder if it coincidence that you, a person apparently searching for some greater meaning and discussing “part of the path”, decided to post such an in depth article about a symbol referred to as “The Path to Enlightenment”.

    I would also stop to wonder if it is coincidence that you and I would have this symbol in common and so many “odd synchronicities” (odd coincidences).

    By the way, my birthday is next month also. Happy early birthday.

  55. MoroccanDesign.com Says:

    You don’t have to convince me that the Universe is an orderly place. I had an overload of synchronicity last week. It doesn’t mean that is personal or political. Just that all is One.

    As for the Freemasons, I would have joined them had I been born with a penis. Instead, I studied Sufism. I wrote about that research at http://www.lovehateflow.com/2010/01/18/research-on-the-sufi-way/. It’s a dense subject and the article could use a re-write. What I learned in short is that Sufism existed before the Prophet Mohammad, although he was also a Sufi, said to be the first Sufi. Islam, like all religions based on written doctrine, has a political aspect to it because the act of writing anything about history is political. But there is a tradition of belief that is rooted in experience and transmitted through art. In this tradition, the Artisan (or Creator) is used as a metaphor for God. And believers are apprentices of sorts. You find these metaphors of Artisan/Apprentices in Sufism, in Pythagorean teachings, in Freemasons practices, and Zoroastrianism. But if you analyze the texts too closely, you devolve into politics. Better to look a zellige. The first time I saw a zellige installation I was sure I was reading the story of the Universe. How could that be put to words?

    As for 2012, I’m pretty sure all time is happening right now and certainly sure that now is where my power is. I don’t put my faith in a calendar date. But certainly it seems more people are awakening. Maybe December 21, 2012 will be the day we have a coming out parade. Because what we’ve been taught about ourselves, what we’ve been taught to believe we are is a lie. And that is why waking up feels like insanity.

    I stumbled on a psychic’s website yesterday. He wrote this about 2012:

    “I psychicly checked out the Mayan Calender and this is what I got from focusing in on a picture of the Mayan Calender. It is the date the Mayans were waiting on to be reunited spiritually with the gods and the ones who were sacrificed in order to appease the gods. They believed they would survive as a race to that date and be reunited with the gods and all those that have passed on to the other side. On December 21 to 24 , 2012 there will be no major earthly or spiritual changes. It was a belief they had.”

    You can read more about him at http://childsearchpsychic.tripod.com/mypsychicautobiographybyrobertlindblad/.

    Now, if you tell me your birthday is on the 13th, then I’ll really freak out :-)

  56. Theo Says:

    Brian, Morocco,
    I have the same experience. However I don’t feel freemasonary is the way. Maryland #37 mentioned melchizedek (not d.Melchizedek) the number being 888…
    I have found synch.s too driving me crazy as I am the only one I know that cares to research. There is a force external of some kind…communicating…encouraging. There is something to this I know that completely. Could we share emails and continue talk:
    theobelize@yahoo.com

  57. Thor Says:

    Hi from Norway

    Stumbled upon this site when looking for information about the Sumerian/Norse mythology connection. Working on something for my forum group, and was chasing the Draco constellation connection.

    Perhaps I can offer one alternative view that perhaps slip your mind as we are all influenced by present cultural doctrines.

    Your “star” could perhaps be another version of the zodiac “cross”. The shift over time between sun and moon worship is common in many ancient cultures. It could be that if you want to look “deeper” into origin of your “star” symbol, you could find loose threads from these places.

    Similar patterns;

    Coat of arms – crusader related, but Christ myth reveals sun worship in all important symbols.

    http://www.heraldsnet.org/saitou/parker/images/m175a.gif

    But most interesting is following the line of sun worship back to ancient Egypt and temple of Abu Gurab.

    http://www.bluelotusofsakkara.com/art/photos/abu_gurab.jpg

  58. Brian of Brandon Says:

    Thor, you’ve hit the nail on the head concerning the star potentially representing the zodiac cross and also relations to sun worship. Based on well over a year of near daily reading and studying the subject, I have no doubts about both.

  59. Brian of Brandon Says:

    Morrocan Design, it was the 14th, not the 13th.

  60. Brian of Brandon Says:

    Theo, not sure what part of the world you are in but I “coincidentally” ran across something a few days ago you may be interested in. A book was written called “The Celestine Prophecy”. It was also made into a movie a few years back that can be instantly downloaded on NetFlix right now. Although written as fiction, it does a spectacular job of depicting the synchonisities within the writers life which lead to him writing the book and making the movie. He also has a web site but I’d suggest you get your first look at overview by looking on wikipedia.org.

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  62. Watung Says:

    Good observation. You might need also to correlate the eight-point star design with the teaching of Islam itself. It is believed, as also mentioned in Al-Quran and Hadith, that the Paradise is surrounded eight principal doors (Baab).

  63. (Amir) Ishaq D.Al-Sulaimani Says:

    The 8-point star is known as the Shield(Seal) of Abraham.It represents the 8th day covenant which was a promise from Allah to multiple the Seed of Abraham like the stars of heaven. In this regard it also represents the 8 sons of Abraham: Ishmael,Isaac,Zimran,Jokshan,Medan,Midian,Ishbak and Shuah.It was the symbol of Mount Moriah where Abraham was instructed to sacrifice his son Isaac.The original Temple of Solomon which was built on Mount Moriah was an 8 sided figure.This is why it took the Maccabees 8 days to cleanse it.The Dome of the Rock Mosque which was built on the site of the former Solomonic Temple respects this tradition and was built as an 8 sided figure as well. The Muslims call it Beyt Maqdis just as the Jews refer to the Solomonic Temple as Beyt Migdash.

  64. MUSLIMUJAHID youtube Says:

    I am moroccan and i see the octagram everywhere in the architectural design. I reject the suffism as it is a bid3a, means has additions to the true religion of islam that is full complete. for the number 8, it is the number of angels that carry the throne of ALLAH sobhanaho wa ta3al at the day of jmudgement. You will find a significance of each number to whom created them. It is far to make a specific symbolism that the number 8 is a sign of islam, I am moroccan and i don’t know the meaning of the pentagram in its flag. why would us just rise the islamic flag we uesed to have centries ago of the kalimah in white on black :

    LA ILAHA ILLA ALLAH , MOHAMMAD RASSUL ALLAH

  65. MoroccanDesign.com Says:

    That would make a nice flag.

  66. jane Says:

    i have only just started researching about the eight pointed star since a recent dream. i dreamted i was looking at the palm of my right hand and saw sum of my palm lines had formed an eight pointed star. no idea what this dream means,but if any1 else does please let me know.i do feel the number eight is very important, it also represents infinity.

  67. Tobal Says:

    The Star of Ishtar, Isis, Inanna, Lakshmi reaches into the depth of all religious and philosophical understanding. It communicates the union of god and man, heaven and earth, global community, etc. The revelations coming to people all around the world in dreams and visions speak to this era of unification that humanity is experiencing.

    “You, the reader must know, that there’s a time and place from whence one got going. Shattering the boundaries about abound our mystery mother earth, a crying baby pressed by breath into life on his day of birth.”

    The birth of humanity into a vibrant universal community is upon us.

  68. lvent Says:

    As with all symbols they have many different meanings to many different people and cultures. Symbols can be interpreted many different ways. There are no clear cut explanations to the meanings behind symbols or signs and why they are used by Governments and Corporations. Only the people using the symbol know what it is intended to mean or represent among themselves and their peers. I personally am very sceptical about the use of symbols and signs in our society esp. by our so called “elected officials”. I think symbolism always has a much broader meaning and is not always used to convey good or honest intentions. Some think the 8 pointed star is some sort of a hex symbol. That is why it is not good for Governments or Corporations to use symbolism to promote or communicate themselves to the public. The general population is begining to have a growing disdain for this practice.

  69. Patricia Mayborne Says:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_9434000/9434907.stm

    8-pointed stars found on the cover of newly-discovered lead ‘books’ from the time of the early Christians. The BBC say that scholars say they ‘indicate the Messiah’. What do other people think?

  70. Falasteen Says:

    Hello,
    I read above that you corrected the Ibn Al-Arabi diagram. However, as I write this, that image is upside-down.
    As I’m sure you’re aware, Arabic letters often connect to one another when written. The connection happens at the bottom of the word. For example, if your site supports Arabic script: هذا هو الخط العربي
    As you can see, the letters are connected on the underside of the word, and not the top. This is an easy way to tell whether your image is right-side-up or not.

  71. the jerm Says:

    just got done watching dirty harry and noticed that the eight pointed star is worn by the san francisco police department.. or at least was. ive always found it interesting how the police have used the star as their symbol (considering its deep “religious” roots).
    always found it interesting how we refer to celebrities as “stars”.
    any comments on this?

  72. Lauren Says:

    Hello,

    I just discovered this article while doing some searching online regarding the eight-pointed star and synchronicity. I would like to compliment the author of this article on her thorough research and bibliography. I happen to be a research librarian, and I rarely find blogs that cite in-text sources for their content, or even list a bibliography at the end of the article. Thank you for providing sources and for an excellent, informative article!

  73. MoroccanDesign.com Says:

    Thank you very much. I did try to make the article as objective and factual as possible. And the Ibn Al-Arabi diagram is upside down. I haven’t gotten around to re-fixing it.

    As for the symbolism of starts, all I can say for sure is that we as a species consistently, cross-culturally, use stars as symbols. And all symbols carry meaning.

  74. haness31 Says:

    Dobrý den,nevím si prosím s nálezem osmicípé hvězdy a o kousek dál ze stejného materiálu,mědi kus roztaveného materiálu.Prosím kontaktujte mě,pošlu fota.S pozdravem Smrcek

  75. haness31 Says:

    Dobrý den,našel jsem měděnou osmicípou hvězdu spolu s kusem roztavené hmoty ze stejného materiálu.Zašlu fota.S pozdravem Smrček

  76. Zeljko Says:

    Hello everybody, i am resheraching the conection of the petronas towers to the eight point star symbol, if someone has some arctiles of this theme i would be gratefull :)

  77. styope Says:

    8 point star is an ancient symbol of Armenian nation, coming from the landing of Noah’s Ark atop Mt. Ararat. It is a symbol of their sacred architectural invention of placing a dome upon a square structure. It is known to house the Eye of God. The symbol lingers in any Armenian church around the world. stefan@9design.com

  78. Anthony Judge Says:

    I am preparing an artice on the 8-pointed star in which I am providing a link to your text. I would have liked to include an image and would like to discuss your constraints on such usage on a private website

  79. MoroccanDesign.com Says:

    I am not sure what you are asking for in terms of images. Most of the images in this post were taken from other sources and cited, so you would need to contact those publishers for permission to further reproduce.

  80. Mohamed Says:

    I want to point out to some people who asked what the eight point star pattern used in Moroccan zillij and other crafts meant for places like uae etc…to make sure they are not asking about usage of this pattern in the modern structures in the Gulf region. Moroccan artisans are and have been contracted to build mosques and palaces all over the Arab world, particularly in the Middle East. Something to consider when thinking about this or any other aspects of architecture/design.

  81. Joe Says:

    The 8 pointed star is actually looking down on two 4 sided pyramids peak to peak if you were to make the 8 pointed star 3dimensional and rotate it 90 deg you would see an hour glass shaped pyramid under a inverted pyramid

  82. Joe Says:

    I guess what I’m trying to say is the 8 pointed star has been around for many millennium

  83. Harry Says:

    Octagonal stop signs why think ?… Many Fountains are octagonal…The temple that holds the dome on the rock is octagonal…There is said to have been an octagonal church on the site of Simons ( cephas )Peters home.

    Eight is two times two times two.the first cubic number after 1.Within architecture the octagon often signifies the transition between Heaven and Earth,as a bridge between the square and the circle.

    Former Heaven sequence,said to represent the ideal pattern of transformations in the cosmos.In religious symbolism,the eight step is often associated with spiritual evolution or salvation.

    Three steps before enter the octagonal fountain… Earth is the third planet from the sun and fifth largest.

    In music three to two and three to one define intervals of the fifth and its octave,the most beautiful harmonies and the key to ancient tunings. three male in some cultures,female in others,three like a tree bridges heaven and earth.It is the return to unity,past present and future…knower,knowing,and the known…

    Five marries male and female. five the number of water,water one of the five platonic solids.Dry things are either dead or awaiting water.

    Unlike threes and fours,fives disdain the plane,waiting for the third dimension to fit together to produce the fifth element.

  84. Harry Says:

    They dont want you to take the eighth step,thats why the stop signs and police badges.

    Symbols manipulate consienise.

    Cog – ni – zance.

    1) Knowledge,awarnes,notice.

    2) Action of taking Jurisdiction.

    The lion with tressure and lilies is the cognizance of the Kings of scotland,not any and every Scotsman.
    Who usurps his princes arms loses his head.

    In heraldry Dexter is a term that means to the left of the shield,Sinister to the right of the shiled.

    In astrology Dexter means the faster a planet is casting its rays to the left side of the applying planet as viewd from the earth.

    Sinister means the faster a planet is waning,or decreasing in light casting its rays to the right.

    People wave flags with symbols that they know nothing of,and defend them to the death in some cases. Its mind control…

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  86. Robert Says:

    I too, like many of you, are researching the 8 pointed star. I’ve seen a certain Christian Denomination use this symbol in their sanctuary and on 2 magazine publications. The denomination is ‘Assemblies of God’. I have come to the conclusion that all the stars have a meaning and purpose. I believe true followers of Christ are NOT to be using these symbols (graven images). I happen to agree with the Dr. James who wrote that “the 8 point star is a representation of the fallen angels that rule this world under Lucifer.”
    My attention, too, has been drawn to the number 11:11 which has kept revealing itself to me since 2010. I don’t understand it yet, but past the point of letting it make me feel I’m going crazy.
    Back to the 8 pointed star, I have wondered if this particular star has something to do with Control over people.
    I have come to observe that all the stars are representative of Lucifer and the fallen angels who serve under his rule. Any star representation is a ‘mark’, a sign, a symbol…of Lucifer and his angels. Its not the only symbol, but a type of many. These are symbols showing ‘Ownership’ ….That is why they are plastered on all the flags of the nations, and on weaponry such as tanks and warplanes, uniforms, etc. Lucifer claims ownership of all these things, including the nations’ governments.
    About that comment where someone mentioned we call actors ‘stars’ , I believe that unwittingly the actors are rewarded as ambassadors of what is false. Notice how Hollywood has corrupt values??
    Would you expect anything less from a place that is named after a ‘poisonous’ plant ???
    Thanks to all who input regarding the 8 point star. Blessings to all. As for me, I believe and trust in the name Jesus Christ.

  87. Robert Says:

    Someone asked about Mormon symbols. The Mormon symbols are borrowed from Freemasonry. You see, Joseph Smith, the founder of Mormonism was a high ranking Mason, and he fashioned the Mormon church after Masonry. Mormon symbols hardly differ from well-known Masonry symbols.
    What perplexes me is, How did Joseph Smith find the time to climb the ranks in Freemasonry while since age 14 was busy establishing Mormonism. ???
    Mormons first do business with Mormons, second with Masons. They consider themselves brothers because they have similar religious ceremonial oaths that are word for word. One difference however, is that Mormons claim their church is of Jesus Christ, while Masons do not worship Jesus the Christ. Masons declare Lucifer is the Light of the World; or, The Light-bearer.

  88. Saviene Says:

    Thanks for a great article! I am taking a Middle Eastern Architecture class and in researching the significance of the 8 pointed star for a class project and I came across this article. I loved reading through all the comments, too. I don’t have anything new to add to what has already been stated, but to those of you who have experienced the Awakening (like taking the ‘red pill’ in the Matrix) I share with you those initial moments of illusionary insanity. Realizing that everything else is only really an extension of yourself is quite a revelation when you have grown up believing that you are separate from all others. I don’t know that anything significant will happen Dec. 21 this year although I wish something would happen to wake the world from its destructive ways. I did see a great youtube video of Ian Lundgold – Sedona, 2005 – explained the Mayan Calendar as a process of consciousness evolution. Funny, too, after reading Brian of Brandon’s first comments about coincidence I immediately thought of the book “Celestine Prophecy” Love and Light.

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    [...] For Islam it is also known as the al-Quds star, i.e. Jerusalem star, and may have ties to the octagonal ground-plan of the Dome of the Rock.  Furthermore in Islam, this symbols is also related to Muhammad himself, in the form of the Khātam al-Nabiyyīn, or “Seal of the Prophets,” which designates him in Muslim belief as the last of the prophets to reveal God’s divine message.  It is likely that Professor Daniel C. Peterson knows much more of this symbol’s use in Muslim culture.  More can be read at MoroccanDesign.com. [...]

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  92. Rob Says:

    The Sumerian symbol for god was 3 intersecting lines forming a star. They believed the gods lived in the stars and that the 5 wandering stars (planets) plus the sun and moon were special homes of the gods because they weren’t fixed and moved around the night sky.

    Innana (or Venus) as the 3rd brightest object in the sky was an extension of the god symbol and was represented by the 8 pointed star. Every Venus goddess that followed has copied this…Ishtar, Ashtoreth etc.

    Even the alchemists have locked onto this symbol as their own…depicting one square one top of another…as their originator (Hermes Trismegistus) would say “As it is above, so it is below” meaning what happens on earth is just a just reflection of what happens in the heavens. We are a microcosm of the macrocosm.

    The more things change the more they stay the same…it’s surprising how persistent symbols are through time.

  93. Rob Says:

    Correction – 4 intersecting lines created an eight pointed star, the symbol for Anu, Sumerian king of the gods. This is the ultimate origin of the 8 pointed star. The star symbol came to designate any god.

  94. John Scott Says:

    great overview…thanks

  95. Bilal Says:

    The part where you talk about “Seal of the Prophets” is the only part i read and well you are gravely mistaken. “Khatim” means end in arabic and Sulayman is a variance for “Solomon”. Now i hope u can piece these two pieces of informatin and understand what i am trying to tell you. Its not Seal of Prophets, its seal of Solomon.

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